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ccKane
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 Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: VST in Reason? |
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Does anyone knows how to import VST's into Reason?
Someone said to me it would deffinatly work, but couldn't tell me how...
Right now i am still using Reason 3, but maybe i upgrade it to Reason 4 but i don't know if it's really better than version 3.
I am also thinking about Cubase or Pro Tools, those programs have more options and are able to load VST's.
But Cubase is a bit cheaper than Pro Tools... Those prices... 
And no, i am not asking this because i just saw the Brute Force VST!
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shockforce
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Im am sorry to say this but reason doesnt support VST and never will
If you like to use VST instrument try fruity loops or even better Cubase.
There is one option you can use reason indirect with vst instruments.
you can rewire reason to fruity loops op Cubase, but you need a phat hardware configuration for this and a hell of a sound card. plus the downside is once rewire you have to use Fruity loops or Cubase as a main program because reason works as a host. i dont recomend this.
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LeVzi
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| shockforce wrote: | Im am sorry to say this but reason doesnt support VST and never will
If you like to use VST instrument try fruity loops or even better Cubase.
There is one option you can use reason indirect with vst instruments.
you can rewire reason to fruity loops op Cubase, but you need a phat hardware configuration for this and a hell of a sound card. plus the downside is once rewire you have to use Fruity loops or Cubase as a main program because reason works as a host. i dont recomend this. |
ok I dont want to start a big row here, but why did you state "even better cubase" ???? |
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ccKane
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: |
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my computer can handle it, that's not a problem. But i don't think i'm gonna use Reason for the host. Too much trouble (i'm a lazy person 
So i think i'm gonna buy Cubase, but i don't know were i can buy it in the Netherlands... And most of the onlineshops looks a bit cheap. Those programs costs a lot of money and it would be a shame if i buyed some fried air. |
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shockforce
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| LeVzi wrote: | | shockforce wrote: | Im am sorry to say this but reason doesnt support VST and never will
If you like to use VST instrument try fruity loops or even better Cubase.
There is one option you can use reason indirect with vst instruments.
you can rewire reason to fruity loops op Cubase, but you need a phat hardware configuration for this and a hell of a sound card. plus the downside is once rewire you have to use Fruity loops or Cubase as a main program because reason works as a host. i dont recomend this. |
ok I dont want to start a big row here, but why did you state "even better cubase" ???? |
didnt reallymean something with this statement but after all cubase is more for professional use then fruity loops. but that doesnt mean fruity loops is good. fruity loops is infact very good and i ask myself why the hell do they call it fruity loops.....????
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LeVzi
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| shockforce wrote: | | LeVzi wrote: | | shockforce wrote: | Im am sorry to say this but reason doesnt support VST and never will
If you like to use VST instrument try fruity loops or even better Cubase.
There is one option you can use reason indirect with vst instruments.
you can rewire reason to fruity loops op Cubase, but you need a phat hardware configuration for this and a hell of a sound card. plus the downside is once rewire you have to use Fruity loops or Cubase as a main program because reason works as a host. i dont recomend this. |
ok I dont want to start a big row here, but why did you state "even better cubase" ???? |
didnt reallymean something with this statement but after all cubase is more for professional use then fruity loops. but that doesnt mean fruity loops is good. fruity loops is infact very good and i ask myself why the hell do they call it fruity loops.....???? |
lol they dont, its called FL Studio now. They dumped the name Fruity Loops at about version 5 I think. Its now on version 8, and its as good as cubase now, if not better. I havent tried cubase 4 yet, but FL Studio 8 XXL is better than Cubase 3 was. |
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LeVzi
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| ccKane wrote: | my computer can handle it, that's not a problem. But i don't think i'm gonna use Reason for the host. Too much trouble (i'm a lazy person
So i think i'm gonna buy Cubase, but i don't know were i can buy it in the Netherlands... And most of the onlineshops looks a bit cheap. Those programs costs a lot of money and it would be a shame if i buyed some fried air. |
Reason limits you to what Reason can use, you are better off with a DAW such as FL Studio or Cubase or ProTools etc that gives you more freedom. |
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ccKane
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| LeVzi wrote: | | ccKane wrote: | my computer can handle it, that's not a problem. But i don't think i'm gonna use Reason for the host. Too much trouble (i'm a lazy person
So i think i'm gonna buy Cubase, but i don't know were i can buy it in the Netherlands... And most of the onlineshops looks a bit cheap. Those programs costs a lot of money and it would be a shame if i buyed some fried air. |
Reason limits you to what Reason can use, you are better off with a DAW such as FL Studio or Cubase or ProTools etc that gives you more freedom. |
That's exactly the reason why i wanna stop using Reason. Reason teached me many things, but if you want to be more creative in your tracks,
in my opinion, you should go further with a program that has more functionality and has a variety of plug-ins to use.
I think that Reason is a perfect program for a beginner (not amateur), but there are too many limits.
Either way, i'm gonna download the trials of Cubase and FL Studio 8 (if those trials exists). But i saw some difference in FL Studio 8.
You have the producer's edition, the XXL version and the normal version... What's the difference between those 3?
Has anyone experience with those? And does anyone know a good tutorial website/video tutorial? Cause i don't know nothing about FL or Cubase... |
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LeVzi
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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I've only ever used Cubase 3 and I didnt like it. I cannot comment on Cubase 4.
I own FL Studio XXL and it comes with a lot of cool stuff, like edison, sytrus etc, plenty of tools to get you going.
So hard to find good demo's for both but I found these.
Cubase
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlnG-8wKya0&feature=related
FL Studio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghDxKdw3FOk
Both DAW's have their pro's and con's. But don't believe a single person that says one is better than the other ok, make your own mind up. |
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Trance Tribe
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| ccKane wrote: | Either way, i'm gonna download the trials of Cubase and FL Studio 8 (if those trials exists). But i saw some difference in FL Studio 8.
You have the producer's edition, the XXL version and the normal version... What's the difference between those 3? |
You can compare those versions here, and you can download a demo (it has all features but you can't save projects, though you can export to mp3).
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taenia solium
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ccKane wrote: | | You have the producer's edition, the XXL version and the normal version... What's the difference between those 3? |
it's the same host,
the only differences between producer, xxl.... are the additional plugins you got.
in the normal version i think you have only some basic synths (wasp, 3x0sc, ts404 ...) but with the others you have more vst (sytrus, slicex, directwave...)
personnaly i own the xxl version so i don't really know what synths are in the normal version, but i think it's explained in the IL website.
about the difference between cubase an FL, there are many...
too many to list, but basicaly FL is not as advanced as cubase but is more friendly. the FL general user interface is really awesome. with cubase it's more difficult to understand everythings but if you really learn to use it, the results will be better.
i, personaly, don't like cubase. but it's only a matter of taste.
you have many others daws to consider...
Ableton LIVE is one of the best out there. you should try the demo.
REAPER is good too, or energy XT.
cheers. |
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taenia solium
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taenia solium
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| Trance Tribe wrote: | | You can compare those versions here, and you can download a demo (it has all features but you can't save projects, though you can export to mp3). |
 
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LeVzi
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I dont understand how FL is less "advanced" than cubase, or any other DAW tbh. Its just a different way of doing the same thing. |
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taenia solium
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| LeVzi wrote: | | I dont understand how FL is less "advanced" than cubase, or any other DAW tbh. Its just a different way of doing the same thing. |
hi,
for hardcore/hardstyle..etc... , sure FL is great.
but for different kind of music FL is a pain, it's really too techno oriented.
Cubase is a more versatile app, but like i've allready said i don't like it (and dont use it)
anyway, hosts like 'Ableton LIVE' are more advanced than FLstudio and are clearly electro oriented too.
with FL, you will need more vst's to be really productive in a good way,
you know you will need to buy some plugins because those included with Fruity aren't good enough, you will need more fx too....
and it's expensive...
plus, if you want a good sound quality (i'm speaking about commercial sound quality), you will need to put more work in the mixing /mastering part in FL than in any other daws,
i must admit that FL8 is better on this side than FL7, but it's nothing comparatively to some others programs like Live or ProTools.
FL's plugs aren't really outstanding.
i don't use them. never.
Sytrus is a good synth but i don't like it (matter of taste),
i use sometimes Slicex and thats all.
sometimes i use FL's Fx , but again, nothing grounbreaking here.
so basicaly, i use FL only for his host functions (which are great for what i need), and i've bought many synths and vstfx to produce the sound in itself.
i don't say that FL is bad,
because it's the better host for what i do,
but in my opinion the synths and samples included in FL aren't good.
don't read me wrong, cause i love FL!!
Cheers.
J. |
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